Afternoon Light Podcast

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FEATURED PODCAST: 12 AUGUST, 2026

Paul Kelly and Alexander Downer on the rise and fall of Australian exceptionalism

How has almost a decade in power left such a severe dent in the Liberal Party’s reputation & viability?

This episode of Afternoon Light special guest hosts Alexander Downer and Chetna Mahadik speak with Paul Kelly about his latest book The Twilight of Exceptionalism. Exploring the failures, contradictions and redeeming achievements of Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull, and Scott Morrison, and how the limitations of their prime ministerships have played into the rise of One Nation.